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Why religion fell off the radar in Australia - and how it can get back on 

At the time of Federation 98% of Australians identified themselves as Christians. Now only 8% say they regularly go to Church. What's changed? How did Australia become a post-Christian nation and what part did the Churches play in their own decline?

Author Roy Williams (God, Actually, In God they trust?) has long been an impassioned defender of Christianity. Here, he tackles the decline of the church head on, acknowledging that in many cases, inflexibility, negativity and a refusal to listen have led to a tarnished image. But he also argues that Australia had a long and often misunderstood Christian heritage. And without it, he says, we will become a society with no moral centre, a community where rampant materialism is the only rule.

Offering a bold roadmap for the Church to change, Williams challenges atheists, agnostics and true believers to a genuinely open debate about the force of faith.

 

 


PostGod Nation How Religion Fell Off The Rad edition by Roy Williams Religion Spirituality eBooks

I will plan to come back and edit this review in the future. I live in Frankfort, KY. I'm not educated on Australian history so this is very new to my mind. Roy Williams perspective interests me. I came across an interview with him on a Christian website based in Australia. It's been a very good read so far. I'm glad to see other reviews posted here by those with good historical knowledge of Australia. I do believe I will have more to say in another month or so, depending on how much reading time I get. Someone in one of the reviews mentioned "bias." I did expect bias as I would with any other history book. That's impossible to keep out. I notice Williams to explain his opinions, bias, or potential error where it seems appropriate in his explanations of particulars persons in history. Williams discussed the debate about Captain James Cook and whether he could have been Christian or not. That was interesting news to me. I'm sure there will be more interesting pieces of history as I continue on with this book.

As of September 5, 2016 I have not yet completed this book. I thought I would by now. I do not have much left. It was a bit troubling to me that the author takes a liberal view of homosexuality. It's very troubling that in our postlapsarian world, that Christians do not grasp that Biblical doctrine has taught for many years that certain sexual behaviors are wrong (polygamy, bestiality, sadism, etc) . This confronts our selfish nature as it always has. I see no good defense of his liberal view on homosexuality. Statistics are offered. That's so very weak and non-biblical. The Holy God we worship is forgiving and grace-filled but that is what makes God Holy and our selfish sexual ways unholy! By the way, I'm not judgmental of homosexuals by any stretch (we all have sins to confess). Although, someone out there reading this will hold me to be judgmental---guaranteed. It's that I understand I have as much sin as any other man or woman and the Bible clearly convicts me of this. I see that our intimacy with God has been affected as a result of the fall and so has our cognition of what God set forth in love, sex, and marriage. I see holiness in God and that my sexual temptation (even if it has some biological basis) is not on track with God's holiness and that's why I need Jesus Christ as my redeemer.

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  • File Size 1319 KB
  • Print Length 537 pages
  • Publisher ABC Books (May 1, 2015)
  • Publication Date April 27, 2015
  • Language English
  • ASIN B00NS707F0

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I have the 406 page printed book and am glad to have it I share the author's good intentions and appreciate this eirenic contribution from a practising member of the now quite conservative Presbyterian Church in Australia (its moderate members mostly have entered into the Uniting Church). . He has consulted a very large range of secondary materials (with the references well-indexed) and included a 40 page appendix about figures in Australian history referred to in his book. There is much information that is of interest, However, one should be aware this is not a scholarly work. There are many mistakes and questionable judgments that make this book an unrealiable source. The cover itself unhappily depicts God as an old man something like Zeus. His biographical sketches are sometimes over-generous or misleading. For example, Samuel Marsden's grim record as a magistrate ("the flogging parson") is omitted. Quite a lot is written about Richard Johnson, the first chaplain at Sydney, but nothing of his building St Philip's. And it is simply silly to describe Governor Arthur Phillip or John Macarthur, for example, as High Anglicans - indeed many of the references to "Anglicans" are anachronistic, reflecting, I think, a limited knowledge of the Church of England and of what is now the Anglican Church of Australia. Almost always in 19th century Australia reference was made to the "Church of England' or the "English Church" or sometimes the "Episcopal Church". The use of the word "Anglican" is comparatively modern. A propos of all that, his distinction between a Church of England founded in the 16th century and a Church in England existing before that is unfounded. Legally, there was no change - other than the Church of England ceasing to be in communion with the See of Rome and the Roman Church in Europe. "Ecclesia Anglicana" (as in Magna Carta), literally "English Church" was usually translated as "Church OF England" in the later Middle Ages - "chirche of Engelond" from the later 14th century. But we find "ecclesia Angliae", literally Church of England, in use before Magna Carta, as early as St Anselm. And a propos of terminology, the frequent misuse of "Reverend" - all too common in the USA - throughout the book is quite irritating. It is always incorrect to use "reverend" as a noun, and always incorrect to use such forms as "the Reverend Smith". So, all in all, a well-intentioned book, to be used with caution, a curate's egg, but with plenty of nourishment all the same. It is a pity that it was not adequately assessed by historians before publication.
Thoughtful, revealing and giving hope.
Good read, full of facts and history - nice to hear that there are alternate voices out there who do not focus their research through the lens of the the secular left.
This is an interesting and unique book, which looks at the history of the Christian religion in Australia, it's current position, and how the church might "get back on the radar" in Australian public life. Williams is on his strongest ground in his historical analysis - this is very thorough and insightful. In his somewhat pessimistic analysis of the current situation I believe he exhibits a major blind spot or bias, in that he virtually exclusively looks at Christianity from the perspective of the Catholic and traditional "mainline" Protestant denominations. He completely ignores the more contemporary churches in Australia today including pentecostal, Churches of Christ, and many other independent non-traditional churches. These are arguably the places where the most growth and life is currently to be found in Australian Christianity, and by not having them on his radar Williams is bound to come up with a skewed picture. His other bias is that he clearly subscribes to the left side of politics. I'm sure he would acknowledge this, and ultimately I do not disagree with most of his suggestions at the end of the book, but in some areas he could express himself in a more neutral, less politically biased manner. Despite these biases this is a well written, interesting book that I would encourage all Australian Christians to consider.
I will plan to come back and edit this review in the future. I live in Frankfort, KY. I'm not educated on Australian history so this is very new to my mind. Roy Williams perspective interests me. I came across an interview with him on a Christian website based in Australia. It's been a very good read so far. I'm glad to see other reviews posted here by those with good historical knowledge of Australia. I do believe I will have more to say in another month or so, depending on how much reading time I get. Someone in one of the reviews mentioned "bias." I did expect bias as I would with any other history book. That's impossible to keep out. I notice Williams to explain his opinions, bias, or potential error where it seems appropriate in his explanations of particulars persons in history. Williams discussed the debate about Captain James Cook and whether he could have been Christian or not. That was interesting news to me. I'm sure there will be more interesting pieces of history as I continue on with this book.

As of September 5, 2016 I have not yet completed this book. I thought I would by now. I do not have much left. It was a bit troubling to me that the author takes a liberal view of homosexuality. It's very troubling that in our postlapsarian world, that Christians do not grasp that Biblical doctrine has taught for many years that certain sexual behaviors are wrong (polygamy, bestiality, sadism, etc) . This confronts our selfish nature as it always has. I see no good defense of his liberal view on homosexuality. Statistics are offered. That's so very weak and non-biblical. The Holy God we worship is forgiving and grace-filled but that is what makes God Holy and our selfish sexual ways unholy! By the way, I'm not judgmental of homosexuals by any stretch (we all have sins to confess). Although, someone out there reading this will hold me to be judgmental---guaranteed. It's that I understand I have as much sin as any other man or woman and the Bible clearly convicts me of this. I see that our intimacy with God has been affected as a result of the fall and so has our cognition of what God set forth in love, sex, and marriage. I see holiness in God and that my sexual temptation (even if it has some biological basis) is not on track with God's holiness and that's why I need Jesus Christ as my redeemer.
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